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Herbert Jacobi's avatar

Agree, sort of. It's not changing their nature. I think it more complex than that. He's hoping for a regime change, either do to internal or external forces, which will probably not happen. Second choice is they stay in power but with no nukes. They aren't going to give them up no matter what they say. Trump's a deal maker and deals are made by rational people interacting with rational people. They aren't. He can't, or refuses to see that. He doesn't want ground troops because ground troops mean bodies coming back in boxes. Can't blame him for that but no war has ever been won by air bombardment alone. People point to Japan at the end of WW II but it was the threat of a massive land invasion that ended it, not the bombing in and of itself. Since the end of WW II the US has tried to end wars via negation rather than a victory. Its' never worked out very well. Maybe Granda. Vietnam is a prime example. The North Vietnamese were in it to win. The US was in it to bring them to the negotiating table. This is the same thing. They aren't going to change and neither is he. This is where forever wars come from.

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Don't get involved in kinetic military action unless you intend to DEFEAT the opponent. We didn't declare war against the Germans and the Japanese because we wanted to reach a negotiated settlement; and waging war isn't the same as trying to negotiate a real estate deal. Besides, how do you negotiate with religious zealots who are trying to foment an apocalypse to bring on the return of the 12th Imam?

This on again off again business is really ticking me off. Didn't we learn anything from Viet Nam for God's sake?

The Iranians needed to be taken down...especially considering their 47 years of killing Americans and wishing for "Death to America", and then boasting they had enough material to construct 11 nukes. But the present strategy - if you can call it that - doesn't seem to be very effective in accomplishing that goal. But what do I know, I was a lowly O-5 trash hauler.

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